Issue 507: reformulate the scope note for P164

ID: 
507
Starting Date: 
2020-06-26
Working Group: 
3
Status: 
Done
Closing Date: 
2020-10-20
Background: 

In the 47th joint meeting of the CIDOC CRM SIG and ISO/TC46/SC4/WG9; 40th FRBR - CIDOC CRM Harmonization meeting; during the discussions on the issue 489 the sig decide to open a new issue about reformulating the scope note for P164 to capture that the timespan can be declarative.

June 2020

Current Proposal: 

Posted by Martin on 4/10/2020

Dear All,

Old Scope Note:

P164 during (was time-span of)
Domain:     E93 Presence
Range:         E52 Time-Span
Subproperty of:    E92 Spacetime Volume. P160 has temporal projection: E52 Time-Span

Quantification: many to one, necessary(1,1 :0,n)

Scope note:    This property relates an instance of E93 Presence with the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span that defines the time-slice of the spacetime volume that this instance of E93 Presence is related to by the property P166 was a presence of (had presence).
Examples:
▪    2016-02-09 (E52) was time-span of the last day of the 2016 Carnival in Cologne (E93).
▪    Johann JoachimWinckelmann’s whereabouts in December 1755 (E93) during December 1755 (E52)
▪    Johann Joachim Winkelmann’s whereabouts from November 19 1755 until April 9 1768 (E93) during November 19 1755 until April 9 1768 (E52)

In First Order Logic:
        P164 (x,y) ⇒ E93(x)
        P164 (x,y) ⇒ E52(y)
        P164 (x,y) ⇒ P160(x,y)

New Scope Note:

Scope note:    This property relates an instance of E93 Presence with the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span that defines the time-slice of the spacetime volume that this instance of E93 Presence is related to by the property P166 was a presence of (had presence). Note that the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span may be defined as the temporal extent of an instance of E2 Temporal Entity via the property P4 has time-span, in order to describe its simultaneity with the related instance of E93 Presence, even without knowing the absolute time-span. In other typical cases, the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span may be a date range declared in or derived from historical sources or provided by dating methods.

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Posted by Steve on 17/10/2020

I have removed the “chosen” as it suggests that this is a different level of choice than the general level of choice exercised in documentation.

I have unpacked the two typical cases to make them a little easier to consume and explicitly stated that one is phenomenal and the other declarative. I have added the full property names and italicised them.

HTH

SdS

 

New Scope Note: From Martin

Scope note:    This property relates an instance of E93 Presence with the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span that defines the time-slice of the spacetime volume that this instance of E93 Presence is related to by the property P166 was a presence of (had presence). Note that the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span may be defined as the temporal extent of an instance of E2 Temporal Entity via the property P4 has time-span, in order to describe its simultaneity with the related instance of E93 Presence, even without knowing the absolute time-span. In other typical cases, the chosen instance of E52 Time-Span may be a date range declared in or derived from historical sources or provided by dating methods.

New Scope Note: Suggested Revision

Scope note:    This property relates an instance of E93 Presence with the instance of E52 Time-Span that defines the time-slice of the spacetime volume that this instance of E93 Presence is related to via the property P166 was a presence of (had presence).

There are two typical cases for the determination of the related instance of E52 Time-Span. In the first, it is the temporal extent of an instance of E2 Temporal Entity (documented with P4 has time-span (is time-span of)): this then documents the simultaneity of the instance of E93 Presence and the instance of E2 Temporal Entity, even if the absolute time-span is not known, and can be regarded as a phenomenal timespan. In the second, the instance of E52 Time-Span is a date range declared in or derived from historical sources or provided by dating methods: this is a declarative timespan.
 

Outcome: 

In the 48th CIDOC CRM and 41st FRBR CRM sig meeting (virtual), the sig reviewed and accepted the reworked scope note for P164 (HW by MD & SdS) and decided to open a new issue on producing didactic material that needs be produced once new properties are introduced in CIDOC CRM v7.1 –like we have done for STVs. Include the use of P164 temporally specified by in said material.

The issue is closed

October 2020

 

 

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